Tails

#5 Updated by Munk 2018-01-23 22:25:09

Hello! I’m one of Pirate Party Austria’s “tech-guys”.
We wanted and will test Riot/Matrix with Tails anyway. We just thought it would probably become more secure if it becomes a Tails default.

• Riot supports: IM, VoIP, Videocall & - conferencing, File Transfer (of course) and SMS (hope I didn’t forget anything)
• It also bridges to Slack, Gitter, IRC, Telegram, Twitter and a lot more…
• Riot can be used over tor.
• It’s decentralized.
• Uses TLS by default.
• It has Debian packages.

https://riot.im/packages/debian/

Little How-To for Debian:

https://github.com/vector-im/riot-web/issues/2845#issuecomment-269720886

http://data.agaric.com/how-install-riot-desktop-matrix-client-debian-based-systems

If somebody else wants to test riot you are welcome to use our Pirate Server:

https://www.pirateriot.net

#6 Updated by Munk 2018-01-23 22:35:46

Sry my bad! Pirate Server without www!

pirateriot.net

#7 Updated by Anonymous 2018-01-24 13:28:14

Munk wrote:
> Hello! I’m one of Pirate Party Austria’s “tech-guys”.

Welcome!

> We wanted and will test Riot/Matrix with Tails anyway. We just thought it would probably become more secure if it becomes a Tails default.

Or the other way round? :)

> * Riot supports: IM, VoIP, Videocall & - conferencing, File Transfer (of course) and SMS (hope I didn’t forget anything)
> * It also bridges to Slack, Gitter, IRC, Telegram, Twitter and a lot more…
> * Riot can be used over tor.
> * It’s decentralized.
> * Uses TLS by default.

Thanks for listing this. I will add this to our blueprint: https://tails.boum.org/blueprint/mobile_messaging/

> * It has Debian packages.
>
> https://riot.im/packages/debian/

Good! Still, these should be available on the official Debian repositories for them to land in Tails.

I’ll take a look at the howto at some point to check it out and report back.

#8 Updated by Anonymous 2018-01-24 13:29:51

> > * It has Debian packages.
> >
> > https://riot.im/packages/debian/
>
> Good! Still, these should be available on the official Debian repositories for them to land in Tails.
This might not be so easy as suggested on https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=866502 (even thought this is about the webapp version of Riot.)

#10 Updated by muri 2018-01-25 21:29:38

hi, just adding my experience: i used riot during the last congress with some people for internal communication. i think it has some potential, also because there are bridges for irc and i stumbled over a few people using irc via matrix. the riot interface is still a bit confusing, especially if you want to use encrypted chat. the first time i set up an encrypted chatroom with a friend it took us half an hour to be able to read each others messages, because you have a separate key per device and we both had some old keys lying around. accoring to https://www.uhoreg.ca/blog/20170910-2110 this will get easier: “Note that the current device verification process is only temporary and in the future will be replaced by something that’s easier to use.”
and i’ve only tested im; no call or video;

i’ve used the riot.im webinterface in chrome via tor and the android app also, but i agree with u that getting riot into debian won’t be easy. actually, i don’t think it will happen. but there are a couple of other clients in debian, according to https://wiki.debian.org/Matrix, but i’ve only tested nheko and it didn’t fit my needs. i guess most of the clients don’t support olm (the matrix e2e encryption) yet, but there is definetly a diverse set of clients and a lot of stuff happening at the moment.
also, it seems there is an active debian team working on getting matrix clients, libraries and servers in shape for debian.

#11 Updated by cacahuatl 2018-02-19 21:34:38

Just throwing this in here incase it’s useful, I was playing with Riot on Tails for a bit. I made a little script to fetch and install it as a standalone app inside of ~/Persistent/, it creates a .desktop file which gets it to use SOCKS5, the process is the same as getting Chrome/Chromium to use SOCKS5. However I was not able to get video/voice chat working at all over Tor during some testing.

https://github.com/epidemics-scepticism/misc/blob/master/get-riot.sh

Also wrote up some brief notes on encrypted group chat and where it might fail

https://github.com/epidemics-scepticism/writing/blob/master/guide.md#group-chat

#12 Updated by intrigeri 2018-02-20 07:57:05

> https://github.com/epidemics-scepticism/misc/blob/master/get-riot.sh

It would be interested to see test results of the revolt package. I had a look at the dependencies of the version currently in Debian testing/sid and it looks like it can be installed as-is on stable, at least for testing purposes :)