Tails

#2 Updated by bluewater 2015-01-09 23:41:13

> Can you reproduce this issue with the latest experimental ISO image based on Jessie? —> http://nightly.tails.boum.org/build_Tails_ISO_feature-jessie/

I will try and report back. Thank you.

#3 Updated by bluewater 2015-01-11 06:25:40

intrigeri wrote:
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> Can you reproduce this issue with the latest experimental ISO image based on Jessie? —> http://nightly.tails.boum.org/build_Tails_ISO_feature-jessie/

I’ve been trying since yesterday to download the latest.iso jessie based TAILS, but unfortunately my connection keeps getting interrupted (from my side) and I have to start all over again downloading the 1GB file, so I think I’ll have to donwload it as a torrent. Does it exist as a torrent?

#4 Updated by intrigeri 2015-01-11 09:35:25

> I’ve been trying since yesterday to download the latest.iso jessie based TAILS, but
> unfortunately my connection keeps getting interrupted (from my side) and I have to
> start all over again downloading the 1GB file,

I suggest you try:

wget -c http://nightly.tails.boum.org/build_Tails_ISO_feature-jessie/latest.iso{,.shasum,.shasum.asc}

> Does it exist as a torrent?

Our nightly builds are only available over HTTP.

#5 Updated by sajolida 2015-01-11 11:05:59

The ‘-c’ option stands for ‘continue’ and will continue getting a partially-downloaded file if the initial download failed.

#6 Updated by bluewater 2015-01-13 16:32:42

Thank you so much, I’m currently downloading the iso using the command you gave me. I’ll try it and report back ASAP.

#7 Updated by intrigeri 2015-02-15 13:18:26

Any news?

#8 Updated by garrettr 2015-02-24 16:37:35

I just tried testing this on a mid-2014 Retina Macbook Pro. I downloaded the nightly and verified the checksum as specified in Comment #4 (23030fe82de7d645ca8ba9ca7b0dffc208447d38bd5c35152df5f864dd744960d61ba3ad3196a3eecbdec14df50fb030be3f028ae5810e5058f83bb332200276 tails-i386-feature_jessie-1.3-20150223T0511Z-9375b40.iso, for reference). I run isohybrid.pl on the .iso and dd’ed it onto a USB stick.

Unfortunately I was unable to successfully boot the USB stick. Tails started booting, but after showing a progress indicator and a message about the Modem Manager, it went to an error screen with a message like “Sorry, something went wrong”. It had a picture of a frowning face and a “Log out” button.

Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help debug this issue (either the failure of the Nightly/Jessie image to boot on Mac, or the screen resolution issue in general)! I train a lot of journalists to use Tails, and since Macs are so common in the publishing field many of them have newer Mac laptops with Retina screens. Unfortunately, this means using Tails is extremely difficult for them due to this issue. Additionally, it is worth noting that other laptop manufacturers are following Apple’s lead and producing laptops with high-DPI displays. These laptops also do not work well with Tails, again because of this issue.

#9 Updated by Anonymous 2015-02-25 12:15:04

> Unfortunately I was unable to successfully boot the USB stick. Tails started booting, but after showing a
> progress indicator and a message about the Modem Manager, it went to an error screen with a message like
> “Sorry, something went wrong”. It had a picture of a frowning face and a “Log out” button.

I have the same problem booting the latest ISO into Virtualbox.

A previous ISO (from 2 weeks ago approx.) booted successfully, with a much too large display though. Using virtualbox on an older thinkpad).

#11 Updated by intrigeri 2015-02-26 11:22:12

> I just tried testing this on a mid-2014 Retina Macbook Pro. I downloaded the nightly
> and verified the checksum as specified in Comment #4
> (23030fe82de7d645ca8ba9ca7b0dffc208447d38bd5c35152df5f864dd744960d61ba3ad3196a3eecbdec14df50fb030be3f028ae5810e5058f83bb332200276 > tails-i386-feature_jessie-1.3-20150223T0511Z-9375b40.iso, for reference). I run
> isohybrid.pl on the .iso and dd’ed it onto a USB stick.

> Unfortunately I was unable to successfully boot the USB stick. Tails started booting,
> but after showing a progress indicator and a message about the Modem Manager, it went
> to an error screen with a message like “Sorry, something went wrong”. It had
> a picture of a frowning face and a “Log out” button.

Sorry about that. This problem is a recurring one that happens each time Tails Greeter is updated on our devel branch => the Jessie ISOs get it instead of the Jessie-specific working one. I’ve fixed that, and (hopefully) made it so the problem doesn’t happen anymore in the future. The next Tails/Jessie nightly built ISO, that should be available online in ~20 minutes, will boot just fine.

#15 Updated by BitingBird 2015-02-28 03:54:38

There will be some months between Debian Jessie and Tails Jessie, the exact delay depends on many things: Debian release date, our disponibilities etc. We’re working on porting Tails to Jessie, that’s the milestone 4.0 if you want to look at the status, we have made good progress but we’re not there yet. Help is welcome, of course :)

#16 Updated by intrigeri 2015-02-28 07:16:26

> Further, the Retina issue appears to be mostly fixed!

Woohoo! I had read that GNOME has been really pretty hard on the HiDPI front, but I did not expect the result to be this good in Jessie yet.

> # The initial boot “loading” animation is correctly sized. It momentarily flashes to a much smaller version of itself, which seems like a return to this bug. It also prints some messages at this point, which are very tiny, including one about the Modem manager. However, once the greeter appears, it is correctly sized.

That’s kind of expected. It also happens on many systems with Tails/Wheezy. In a nutshell, the boot splash screen (handled by the Plymouth I/O multiplexer) is set up before the KMS driver has set the optimal screen resolution. If you’re interested in looking into that deeper, please file a dedicated ticket about it. And I guess it makes sense to work on this directly on the feature/jessie branch.

> # Some applications do not display correctly, or display only partially correctly, at the moment. See attached screenshot:
> ## everything in Tor Browser is way too small
> ## the icons in KeePassX are too small but other parts (the menus) look OK

Maybe file a subtask of this very ticket about each such bug you can find?

> I am not sure if these are issues that Tails-specific, or if they will be worked out as Jessie and its constituent parts approach release.

I doubt these issues are Tails specific. I also doubt they qualify as release-critical and have much chance to be fixed in Debian Jessie.

> There does not appear to be a firm date for Debian Jessie.

My current best bet is: by the end of April.

> Do you expect to transition the mainline Tails release to be based on Jessie soon after Jessie is released, or will there will be some delay?

In the current state of our resources, even if we get all the funding we’ve asked for, there are very slight chances that we get Tails/Jessie out before October — and early 2016 seems more realistic. Now, as BitingBird suggested, if we get substantial help I’m not accounting for yet, who knows what better timeline we can aim for :)

#17 Updated by Kuklinski 2015-03-19 00:10:56

I have the same problem but use an asus notebook with 3k screen. Can anyone post a direct link to a working iso of “tails jessie” please?
The “latest.iso” don’t works to me. I’ve burned it on a DVD but this disk is not able to boot…
Many thanks!

#18 Updated by Kuklinski 2015-03-19 01:29:39

Now I got it. It boots. Sorry it was my mistake. About the high DPI screen: For the eye it looks fine now. Almost finished I would say.
The Tor browser toolbar must be bigger, the addon Zoom Menu Elements helps.
A really big problem for now is that the persistent volume dont mount after creating and restart. No asking about the password for it. And for many things the admin password is required although it was not set.
Is there a better version avalable already? :-)

#19 Updated by intrigeri 2015-03-19 09:58:42

Thanks for reporting back! And glad you’re bringing good news.

> The Tor browser toolbar must be bigger, the addon Zoom Menu Elements helps.

As stated earlier on this ticket: “Maybe file a subtask of this very ticket about each such bug you can find?”
Done in the Bug #9077 subtask for this one.

> A really big problem for now is that the persistent volume dont mount after creating and restart. No asking about the password for it. And for many things the admin password is required although it was not set.

These problems are off-topic on this ticket. Please file dedicated tickets about it, thanks! :)