Feature #7926

FAQ: Explain why users shouldn't do apt-get upgrade

Added by sajolida 2014-09-21 12:58:01 . Updated 2015-03-22 12:12:11 .

Status:
Resolved
Priority:
Elevated
Assignee:
Category:
Target version:
Tails_1.3.1
Start date:
2014-09-21
Due date:
% Done:

100%

Feature Branch:
faq/7926-apt-get-upgrade
Type of work:
End-user documentation
Blueprint:

Starter:
Affected tool:
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#1 Updated by BitingBird 2014-09-21 16:34:26

Yes, users ask this all the time.

#2 Updated by intrigeri 2014-09-22 08:03:15

> Yes, users ask this all the time.

… and IIRC we have a pretty good answer to this in some salvaged forum thread.

#3 Updated by BitingBird 2014-12-03 14:12:14

  • Status changed from Confirmed to In Progress
  • QA Check set to Ready for QA

#4 Updated by intrigeri 2014-12-03 14:24:01

  • Assignee set to BitingBird
  • % Done changed from 0 to 20
  • QA Check changed from Ready for QA to Dev Needed
  1. id=“…” should not have spaces
  2. use backticks around apt-get etc., not single quotes
  3. “If you manually upgrade the system” isn’t clear whether it’s about APT upgrades or Tails upgrades, since that’s exactly how we call Tails upgrades, while here you’re talking of APT ones
  4. regarding manually installed packages: not needed iirc, the additional software thingie upgrades these packages itself

#5 Updated by BitingBird 2014-12-03 15:07:49

  • Assignee deleted (BitingBird)
  • % Done changed from 20 to 0
  • QA Check changed from Dev Needed to Ready for QA

#6 Updated by BitingBird 2014-12-03 19:25:40

  • Assignee set to sajolida
  • Target version set to Tails_1.2.2

It’s in my master

#7 Updated by sajolida 2014-12-11 17:22:27

  • Assignee changed from sajolida to BitingBird
  • QA Check changed from Ready for QA to Info Needed
  • Feature Branch set to faq/7926-apt-get-upgrade

Thanks for the patch!

I rescued your commit in a dedicated branch: faq/7926-apt-get-upgrade. Please work on this one now.

  • What about simplifying the title and give from granted that people that know what `apt-get upgrade` is, already know that `apt-get update` is needed before that? Then we could skip mentioning `apt-get update`.
  • What about also mentioning Synaptic, as people used Synaptic might not know what `apt-get upgrade` is?

#8 Updated by intrigeri 2014-12-12 09:06:01

> * What about simplifying the title and give from granted that people that know what `apt-get upgrade` is, already know that `apt-get update` is needed before that?

It’s needed only in highly-customized systems such as Tails, so I don’t think we can take this for granted.

#9 Updated by intrigeri 2014-12-12 09:19:44

> * What about simplifying the title and give from granted that people that know what `apt-get upgrade` is, already know that `apt-get update` is needed before that?

It’s needed only in highly-customized systems such as Tails, so I don’t think we can take this for granted.

#10 Updated by anonym 2014-12-12 16:41:57

  • Target version changed from Tails_1.2.2 to Tails_1.2.3

#11 Updated by BitingBird 2014-12-19 13:26:32

We can maybe remove the “update” from the title, but definitly not from the explanations, as most users who don’t manage to install additional software fail because they didn’t update first, so it isn’t self-evident for lots of users. Mentionning synaptic would be a good idea. I’ll go back to it :)

#12 Updated by BitingBird 2015-01-08 05:35:02

  • Target version changed from Tails_1.2.3 to Tails_1.3

#13 Updated by intrigeri 2015-01-10 09:47:53

  • Affected tool deleted (FAQ)

#14 Updated by BitingBird 2015-01-14 22:30:17

  • Assignee changed from BitingBird to sajolida
  • QA Check changed from Info Needed to Ready for QA
  • Feature Branch changed from faq/7926-apt-get-upgrade to bitingbird:faq/7926-apt-get-upgrade

Please pull my modifications :)

#15 Updated by BitingBird 2015-01-20 00:33:08

Built, it looks like it should.

#16 Updated by BitingBird 2015-02-03 19:13:45

  • Priority changed from Normal to Elevated

Setting priority elevated, because I have to explain it at least once a day and it starts bothering me.

#17 Updated by sajolida 2015-02-10 08:20:45

  • Assignee changed from sajolida to BitingBird
  • Feature Branch changed from bitingbird:faq/7926-apt-get-upgrade to faq/7926-apt-get-upgrade

I added four commits on top of yours. So please fetch and have a look at
`git show 41017c4..a94aaf7`. If that’s fine with you, assign it back to me, mark the QA Check
as “Pass”, and I’ll merge it.

#18 Updated by BitingBird 2015-02-10 14:20:32

  • Target version changed from Tails_1.3 to Tails_1.3.2

#19 Updated by BitingBird 2015-03-03 08:44:42

  • Assignee deleted (BitingBird)
  • QA Check changed from Ready for QA to Pass

Checked your modifications, everything is fine. Please merge :)

#20 Updated by BitingBird 2015-03-03 08:45:55

  • Assignee set to intrigeri

#21 Updated by intrigeri 2015-03-03 10:29:49

  • Status changed from In Progress to Resolved
  • Assignee deleted (intrigeri)
  • % Done changed from 0 to 100

Merged!

#22 Updated by BitingBird 2015-03-22 12:12:11

  • Target version changed from Tails_1.3.2 to Tails_1.3.1