Feature #12729

Single out Tor Browser users in Matomo

Added by sajolida 2017-06-17 18:36:56 . Updated 2019-03-02 13:12:04 .

Status:
Rejected
Priority:
Normal
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Start date:
2017-06-17
Due date:
% Done:

0%

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Type of work:
Discuss
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Description

To summarize our options, the pros and cons, to single out, at least partly, Tor Browser users:

1. Use server log with IP addresses

- (+) Will take into account people without JavaScript.
- (-) People going out through the same exit node will appear as a
single visit.

2. Use the JavaScript and cookie from Piwik

- (-) We won’t take into account people without JavaScript.

- (-) Have to add a consent message as of the Cookie Law.
- (+) Will be able to differentiate Tor Browser users going out through
the same exit node.

3. Use the JavaScript only from Piwik

- (-) We won’t take into account people without JavaScript.

- (+) Probably won’t be able to differentiate Tor Browser users going out through the same exit node.
- (+) Don’t have to change our current server log policy (= bother boum.org).

In all cases, we can use the IP anonymization feature of Piwik on top of that (and delete the server logs for example).

Temporary conclusion: Options 1 and 3 seems the best options given the European legislation. 1 would take into account people without JavaScript so might be better on the long term. But 3 doesn’t imply changes on boum.org so could be done right now.


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#1 Updated by sajolida 2017-06-17 18:38:15

#2 Updated by sajolida 2017-06-17 18:38:33

#3 Updated by Anonymous 2017-06-27 13:20:19

  • Assignee set to sajolida
  • QA Check set to Info Needed

@sajolida Can you please clarify what this ticket is about?

#4 Updated by sajolida 2017-07-05 19:07:04

#5 Updated by sajolida 2017-07-05 19:07:09

#7 Updated by sajolida 2017-09-06 10:46:32

  • Description updated

#8 Updated by sajolida 2017-10-03 07:16:11

  • Description updated
  • QA Check deleted (Info Needed)

#9 Updated by sajolida 2017-10-03 07:21:11

  • blocked by deleted (Feature #13424: Core work 2017Q3: User experience)

#10 Updated by sajolida 2017-10-13 19:03:32

  • Description updated

Update: you can use the JavaScript from Piwik without the cookie. See https://piwik.org/faq/general/faq_157/. Then we can use the JavaScript, not have to deal with a change of policy in our logs, and still comply with the European GDPR.

#11 Updated by sajolida 2017-10-13 19:08:11

Actually, even the JavaScript only might not be enough but it’s not clear yet. See “2 – You are not collecting personal data with Piwik” in https://piwik.org/blog/2017/09/gdpr-potential-consequences-piwik/?pk_campaign=org_newsletter_2017_10&pk_medium=email&pk_source=piwik_org_newsletter.

#12 Updated by sajolida 2018-01-11 01:32:37

  • Subject changed from Single out Tor Browser users in Piwik to Single out Tor Browser users in Matomo

Piwik is now Matomo: https://matomo.org/blog/2018/01/piwik-is-now-matomo/

#13 Updated by sajolida 2019-03-02 13:12:04

  • Status changed from Confirmed to Rejected
  • Assignee deleted (sajolida)

I’m rejecting because I don’t think we’ll work on this any time soon.